Control Panel
Edit your Blog
Build a Blog
View other Blogs
RSS Feed
View Profile
« August 2010 »
S M T W T F S
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30 31
Entries by Topic
All topics  «
a sad day
family
funny stuff
informative
people who need help
pictures
quotes
ramblings
sitcom funnies
thought provoking
why others hate the US
worthy read
My Sites
*My Website
*TAMITS
*Finance Advice Blog
*Finance Advice Website
*Demotivation
*Gonna Twinkle [my gf's jewelry website :D ]
*Join my "grouper" group
-----*Click here to find out what "grouper" is

Interesting Websites
*The King of Queens
-----*Official Jerry Stiller Website
*Seinfeld
*Seinfeld Scripts
*ImplosionWorld
*Craigslist
*Movie Information/Quotes
*Movie Mistakes
*Logic Test
*Right/Left Brain Test
*Bonzer Websites (page of various links)
*Snopes - Myth Debunking Site
*Cap1sucks.com
*Amexsux.com
*Credit Card Ratings
*Salary Calculator
*Michael Crichton
-----*Crichton speeches
*Wired For Books (free audio books)
*Astronomy Picture of the Day
*Pencilmation (Pencil Animation)
*WorldView Test
*Theme Park Insider - rates theme parks worldwide
*MySimon.com - price comparison
*The Airline Napkin Wipeoreum
*Typing Test
*Personality Tests
*Radio-Locator
*FAQ Farm
*The Cooks Thesaurus
*Credit Card Calculators
*NetFlix - Rent DVDs for $10 - $18 per month
*PeerFlix - trade DVDs for $1
*Bill O'Reilly's Official Website
*20 Questions
*Where's George? - currency tracker
*Obscure Patent of the Week
*Digital Blashemy
*Rock-On - balanced rock art of Bill Dan
*Bayat's Middleman slideshow
*Tripod
*Google
*Ask.com

Interesting Weblogs
*Ray (my cousin)
*Digital Views
*Something Catholic
*Judie Brown's Blog (American Life League)
*Stephanie
*Christopher Raymond
*AlwaysLowPrices.net - Best and Worst of Wal-Mart

Educational / Informative
*Wikipedia - Online encyclopedia
-----*List of Economists on Wikipedia
*Online Etymology Dictionary - origin of words
*Dictionary.com
*Punctuation Made Simple
*WebMD
*Cockeyed.com
*Twinkies Project
*Webmonkey.com
*Webmonkey.com tour
*Frames Are a Picnic
*The Museum of Online Museums (MoOM)
*How Stuff Works
*Guiness World Records
*Beer Advocate
*Online Conversion - convert almost anything!
*Acronym Finder
*Power of 10
*Lots of Dots
*US & World Populations
*Zip Decode
*Mega Penny Project
*Gas Buddy - cheapest gas prices in your area
*File Extension Source
*Internet Movie Database
*The 12 Federal Reserve Bank
*Alan Greenspan Bio
*US Mint
*Bureau of Engraving and Printing
*7 Wonders of the World

For Those Who Are Bored...
*Bored.com
*I Am Bored
*Bored at Work
*At Work and Bored
*Ubersite.com
*Bored. Cure Your Boredom!
*Paul Harris Online

Game Sites
*Gamespotter.com
*Yahoo! Games
*MSN Games
*Metasquares - one of my favorites
*Pop Cap Games
*Addicting Games
*Shockwave.com
*Download Free Games
*Coffee Break Arcade
*Miniclip.com
*Puzzlemaker
*Online Word Search game
*Guess-the-Google

Religious Links
*Major Branches of Religions
*Information on World Religions
*Catholic Answers
*CatholiCity
*Homily for Pope John Paul II - by Joseph Ratzinger
*The 7 Deadly Sins & Heavenly Virtues
*Dante's Inferno - A Tour of Hell

Music
*Internet Undergroung Music Archive
*eFolkMusic.org
*Amazon.com free music downloads
*Beau-dacious Oldies But Goodies

Pearl Jam Links
*Official Home Page
*Pearl Jam Synergy
*Lukin - awesome lyrics page
*Pearl Jam Live - streaming audio
*Five Horizons
*Black Red Yellow
*The Sky I Scrape
*VH1.com - Pearl Jam
*MTV.com - Pearl Jam
*PJ Posters

Norah Jones
*Norah Jones Official Site
*Unofficially Norah Jones
*Norah Jones (bluenote.com)
*Norah Jones fansite
*From Within {Norah Jones}
*Norah Jones Fan Site - Fairy Jam
*VH1.com - Norah Jones
*MTV.com - Norah Jones

Valuable Downloads
*Grouper
*Picasa
*Mozilla (home of Firefox and Thunderbird)

Job Searches
*Jobs By Fax
*CareerBuilder.com
*Monster.com
*Yahoo! HotJobs
*Job-Hunt.org - search other job sites by state
*Employment Guide

Pregnant?
*Pregnancy Centers
*Pregnancy Resource Centers
*MaternityCard.com - health care discounts
*America's Pregnancy Helpline
* #1 Registry of Adoption Parent Profiles
*NRLC Pregnancy Help

The Truth About Abortion
*Abort73.com
*AbortionTV.com
*AbortionIsMurder.org
*ProLifeAction.org
*Abortion Truths (from an MD)
*National Right to Life Committee
*American Life League
*Priests For Life
*Silent No More
*Crossing Over Ministry (formerly Roe No More Ministry)
*Operation Outcry: Testimony of Susan Renne

...of the day/week
*Astronomy Picture of the Day
*Lunar Photo of the Day
*Earth Science Picture of the Day
*Daily Picture
*Obscure Patent of the Week
*Kodak Picture of the Day
*OSEI Picture of the Day
*Ahajokes.com Jokes of the Day
*Colorado Picture of the day

Comedy Sites
*The King of Queens
*Seinfeld
-----*Seinfeld Scripts
-----*Official Jerry Stiller Website
*Comedy Central
*Big-Boys.com
*Comedy.com
*Comedy-Zone.com
*ComedyCellar.com
*TheComedyStore.com
*ComedyHome.com

Political Sites
*Mike Drudge (Drudge Report)
*US Politics Today
*Factcheck.org

How Stuff Works
*How Stuff Works - homepage
*How Banks Work
*How the Federal Reserve Works
*How Check Processing Works

You are not logged in. Log in

Email me if you have a site you think I should add! :)
Bryan's Ramblings...

Feel free to comment on anything and everything I say!
There is a "post your comment" link below each entry where you can submit your own comments.
Enjoy!
Tuesday, 18 January 2005
Sweat shops...
Mood:  chillin'
Topic: informative
I categorized this under "informative" instead of just "rambling." I hope you agree :)

I was reading another blog (http://trueliberal0.tripod.com/) and the author mentioned sweat shops. (He also happened to be mentioning how the far left can go too far left sometimes).

Case in point: sweat shops.

Now how many of us think that manufacturing companies here should go from paying workers $7/hr + benefits, 40 hr work weeks, paid time off, sick leave, etc to moving their factories overseas, pay $1/day to the workers and give them little to no benefits? Well unless you happen to own the business (or are a hired financial advisor for them) you probably won't support that. "It's ridiculous" you probably say. "They shouldn't be allowed to get away with that!"

Well, the story, as they say, always has two sides. The "other side" was introduced to me by a man named Nicholas Kristof of the NY Times. In my humble opinion, I think he is an outstanding author. That's my opinion though, you're free to think whatever you want of him.

See, Nicholas and his wife travel abroad a lot. In one article, entitled Two Cheers for Sweatshops, Nicholas actually argues for sweatshops. "How can someone in their right mind do this?" you ask? Well, simple: he's been to those third world countries where these sweat shops are. He knows the conditions of these shops (not as bad as you can imagine, but not the best working environments either). He also knows the conditions of the children who are not able to get jobs at these sweatshops...of the sad truth behind child prostitution, drugs, and crime. Many families (as the article and others like it show) actually encourage their children to work in these shops. The families need money, and the parents don't want their kids turning to drugs or prostitution to get it.

"Fourteen years ago, we [Nicholas and his wife] moved to Asia and began reporting there. Like most Westerners, we arrived in the region outraged at sweatshops. In time, though, we came to accept the view supported by most Asians: that the campaign against sweatshops risks harming the very people it is intended to help." He goes on to explain situations that are reported in America, Michael Moore-style. For those who don't know, "Michael Moore-style" is when you take the truth and twist it and turn it a little bit and omit a few things so that it looks worse than it is.

Rather than sweat shop owners forcing the workers to work long hours, many sweat shop workers request it so as to make more money.

"It's actually pretty annoying how hard they want to work," said the factory manager, a Hong Kong man. "It means we have to worry about security and have a supervisor around almost constantly."

"$2/day for a nine hour shift, six days a week," definitely doesn't sound like a good deal for us, but to someone in a foreign land that is decent money. Comparing what they make to what we make is comparing apples to oranges: Nicholas went to a food stand in a nearby village there and paid the equivalent of 5 cents for a meal of leaves, rice, fish paste and fried beetles. Now where in American can you get a meal for 5 cents?

And then, there's the third side of this story: what paying $2/day to people in Thailand means for us Americans. It means, quite plainly, that we can go to a store and purchase something today for half the price we paid for it a few years ago.

As any intro econ teacher would tell you, it doesn't matter so much how much you make (nominal wage), but what you can buy with it (real wage). Who cares if you make $100/hr if the cheapest hamburger you can find is $300? Life would be much better for you if you made only $5/hr and paid $1 for a hamburger. (We are assuming, of course, that all other goods and services are on comparable terms to the hamburger.) In three hours of working in situation one, you could just barely afford to buy your hamburger; in situation two you could afford 15 hamburgers.

"What does this have to do with it?" you ask? Well, when people overseas produce our products cheaper than we can and in turn the companies that make them sell them to us at a reasonable mark-up, we are better off. Our "hamburgers" become cheaper.

Let's use clothing as an example. Today, let's say, you can find a sweater you like for $20 (regular price). Three years from now, you might find the exact same sweater and it will be $15 (regular price, not sales price). Did cotton fall upon the earth in great quantities and the over-abundance cause a lower price for sweaters? Or was it that the sweaters were made with less labor and capital? Most likely, #2. Now during those three years your wage probably didn't change all that much. Let's say, for the sake of making things easy, that today you make $10/hr, and in 3 years from now you just happen to make $15/hr. That's a good raise in just 3 years, but not completely out of line. Well, today you'd spend 2 hrs working in order to purchase the sweater ($20); in 3 years it will only take you one hours worth of work to purchase the sweater ($15).

What always has bothered me was Nike: they pay someone 15 cents a day to make shoes overseas, and then turn around and sell the shoes in America for over $100. From a business point of view it's brilliant (since they can get away with it). But morally I think it is reprehensible...and that is why I boycott Nike :)

It is hard to be in "support" of sweat shops, but most of them aren't as bad as the press and some activists here would have you believe. But sweat shops aren't all bad, like they'd have you believe. Certainly we don't want anyone suffering at work or being forced to work hours without rest or pay. But for those sweat shops that treat the workers humanely and keep children (and some adults for that matter) out of trouble, I say we should support them. That is why I stand behind Kristof and say "Two Cheers for Sweat Shops!"


Posted by Bryan at 4:12 PM PST | Post Comment | Permalink

View Latest Entries

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
-- from the movie "Billy Madison"

"Do not compute the totality of your poultry population until all the manifestations of incubation have been entirely completed."
-- William Jennings Bryan
(In other words, don't count your eggs before they hatch)

"When seeking a companion, become the type of person you would like to attract!"

Free Web Counters


View My Guestbook
Sign My Guestbook

BeerAdvocate.com - Join Now!

©2005 BMan Industries